Wednesday, February 25, 2004
Musterflow!!!!!
hmmmm....yes tim the whole didnt mean ot offend thing is stupid. but i am not the one who did not mean to offend. i was tryin to maybe splain why geetha had the opinion she had and that what mea said was kinda rediculous. i mean i dunno, i htink overreaction is an understatement. and mea, you are of course entitled to that. yes i know human testing was sarcasm, but so was i. i dont personally see geetha being "proud" of her pain infliction but maybe thats cuz i talked to her after each time she went in and she felt very bad for those rats, trust me. she doesnt like pets becasue weve taken them out of their "natural" environment and used them for our own means. same with animal testing. i htink mea siad it best, this really is a case where there are differeing opinions and were not really gonna change anyones ideas about htis. as for the offensities, it happened, i jsut thought it was harsh (two fuck you's for example).
as for animal testing i agree that it must be done with care but is a necesity it many cases. as for the idea that all animals are on equal ground etc. i agree. but i am not an animal politician so i dont need to please the masses. i am a human, so i want human survival. many of us believe that survival of other animal species is ognna help human survival, hence we feel bad about animal testing and what not. if animal testing is going to endanger humans or jsut myself then i am against it, but from what i can tell its helping us survive. on top of that we produce building full of lab animals for our own use, so its not as if we are over or under populating the natural albino rat population (sarcasm there) in some field cuz that field is a bulding at UCLA or any other research institution. maybe animals have feelings. all animals? i mean where do we draw the line? mammals? birds? cute mammals and birds? reptiles? nematodes? sponges? its a game of backwards induction until we get ot crap we cant even see and very few people care about. so do those tiny creatures have feelings? what about plants? i do plant research, kill plants every day. mash em up freeze them heat them cut them pick them autoclave them, so is that bad? they clearly dont have feelings, right? is it living things? or is it living things that can move themselves? i dont understand that distinction. i understand maintaining the environment, but in the lab there is hardly an environement. ok, im going to stop as Im sure there is plenty of information here to poke holse in. but i htink you get the gist, which is all im really going for here. that adn i would like to avoid doing work.
ps. i hate it when humans are separated from animals as if human aren ot animals, and i realized i did it in htere so i changed, but if i didnt catch it in another place, please note that this is a bad habit gained from hearing everyone say it.
as for animal testing i agree that it must be done with care but is a necesity it many cases. as for the idea that all animals are on equal ground etc. i agree. but i am not an animal politician so i dont need to please the masses. i am a human, so i want human survival. many of us believe that survival of other animal species is ognna help human survival, hence we feel bad about animal testing and what not. if animal testing is going to endanger humans or jsut myself then i am against it, but from what i can tell its helping us survive. on top of that we produce building full of lab animals for our own use, so its not as if we are over or under populating the natural albino rat population (sarcasm there) in some field cuz that field is a bulding at UCLA or any other research institution. maybe animals have feelings. all animals? i mean where do we draw the line? mammals? birds? cute mammals and birds? reptiles? nematodes? sponges? its a game of backwards induction until we get ot crap we cant even see and very few people care about. so do those tiny creatures have feelings? what about plants? i do plant research, kill plants every day. mash em up freeze them heat them cut them pick them autoclave them, so is that bad? they clearly dont have feelings, right? is it living things? or is it living things that can move themselves? i dont understand that distinction. i understand maintaining the environment, but in the lab there is hardly an environement. ok, im going to stop as Im sure there is plenty of information here to poke holse in. but i htink you get the gist, which is all im really going for here. that adn i would like to avoid doing work.
ps. i hate it when humans are separated from animals as if human aren ot animals, and i realized i did it in htere so i changed, but if i didnt catch it in another place, please note that this is a bad habit gained from hearing everyone say it.
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